Posts by Captain Obvious

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Evolution is Crap, there I said it!

by Crazyguy in

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ok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.

the theory of major evolution is crap!

the theory is falling apart.

Captain Obvious

EP I like this idea:

Pick one specific thing that you think has not been properly explained and let's talk about it. Keep it simple, pick just ONE.

CrazyGuy, every argument you have made thus far has either had nothing to do with evolution, or been easily disproved a long time ago and explained to you in this very thread.

So, lets talk an out ONE issue you have, and make it a good one. About evolution specifically.

And EP isn't the one who has to go back and red Darwin's stuff... As I have explained to you several times in this thread already, evolutionary theory is separate from abiogenesis, Big Bang, physics, string theory etc. Evolutionary theory only applies after life has started, and it does so quite well. If you like to see the hand of a creator in the first cell go ahead, it still doesn't tough evolution. As I asked you before, are you willing to reduce gods hand in creation to just the first cell? I'd doubt it.

There is no reason to demand that abiogenesis be replicated in a lab just as you would like. It is very complicated. Scientific discoveries are made every day, give it time. It will likely happen in the future.

I the future, please actually read the posts on your own damn thread before making the same tired points repeatedly. We aren't ignoring you, please don't ignore us.

Did you have a peek at the common ancestry thread?

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desperate or stupid - you decide

by finally awake in

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just ron has received a couple of phone calls in the last few days from the rbc brother wanting him to come roof a kingdom hall.

now, just ron hasn't been to a meeting since december 2011, and certainly hasn't got a current volunteer form on file.

so i ask, are they desperate or just stupid?.

Captain Obvious

Your info stays on file with the RBC for a long time, regardless of whether you move or become inactive. They don't have time to wait to hear back from every BOE about every applicant they have on file. They may check up on you when you first apply, then after that count on the fact you would NEVER leave Jehovah's valley of protection!

Mrs. Obvious and I still get the occasional RBC invite, despite having moved over 1000 miles away and me becoming inactive.

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Design or Non-Design, finally we know, Darwin's Doubt

by QC in

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if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.

this is a game changer.

the bomb!.

Captain Obvious

QC, have you ever read any books that actually explain evolution?

If not, how do keep your confirmation bias in check?

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The Elusive and Shy creator god.---

by prologos in

is there only a 50 / 50 chance that there is a ceator or.

assuming that there is one, and looking at it all,- it is hard to imagine that there is not,.

particularly if you tried all your life to make stuff work.

Captain Obvious

Still don't understand the OP, but I'll bite. If there is a creator, he's not a very good one. To top it off he is either uninterested in earth, or powerless. If it is the god of the bible, then he would rather wipe his mistakes clean and start over again and again instead of giving easy to understand readily accessible instructions. What kind of a father would do that?

The creator premise is weak, the creator IN the premise is even weaker.

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David Splane in Calgary Alberta July 1st for special talk

by hoser in

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i heard from a reliable source that governing body member david splane will be giving a talk in calgary where all the flooding was last week.

Captain Obvious

JWs only help JWs. While its good to help, it'll be like after Katrina in 05. Help rebuild, everyone's happy, then they ask for the insurance settlement money. Of course materials cost money, but being paid for volunteer labour? That's low.

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Where are all the new members?

by Captain Obvious in

with the changes in doctrine being fully unveiled at the dc this year, i expected many to wake up.

the dcs have been going on for a month now, i fully expected to be welcoming new members by now!

am i just being impatient?

Captain Obvious

An exodus is something that I'm not holding my breath for, but ridiculous doctrinal changes like this sure help!

Looking forward to welcoming hopefully at least a wave of new people to argue with chat with

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David Splane in Calgary Alberta July 1st for special talk

by hoser in

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i heard from a reliable source that governing body member david splane will be giving a talk in calgary where all the flooding was last week.

Captain Obvious

Dome Well we know it won't be at the saddledome, that's for sure!

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Evolution is Crap, there I said it!

by Crazyguy in

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friends

ok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.

the theory of major evolution is crap!

the theory is falling apart.

Captain Obvious

Wow... Spent a long time typing a nice post, page reloads... GONE. Thanks iPad.

Basically what I was saying was that decades in the WT have given you a distrust for science and medicine. Just asserting that scientists are lying does nothing to argue their points. In fact attacking them ad hominem shows you have no proper defence. The scientific community has a sort of immune system for this type of thing. If a known respected scientist were to be caught lying in his findings, his career would be over. When someone makes a new discovery, all of their work is challenged and peer reviewed before a paper can even be published publicly. Every idea in science is up for grabs, that's what drives them forward.

Nobody is expecting you to read on e book and drop your beliefs that you held dear for decades. Throughout this whole thread including the title and OP you have shown your ignorance. And the board hasn't been nice to you because of your arrogance. Obviously you were so confident that you we right that you felt justified in making such an absurd claim.

You don't feel that way anymore, do you. Every one of your arguments has been dismantled several times over. That's enough to make a guy stop and reconsider his position. Your position is that you don't understand the very things you say are crap! Make sense? Don't say you do understand, you have shown that you are clueless. Having recently woken up that is understandable, but only for so long. And only as long as you aren't being all arrogant in your ignorance. Read the books, at least you will understand the basics and ins and outs of this "crap" theory.

BTW, my offer still stands.

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should I stay or should I go?

by Crazyguy in

i haven't had my dc yet and after reading about what's being said on saturday i was thinking about not going in protest as they are not being christ like.

will this be a good technique for my kids or should i go and endure the crap and then say a few things to my children while they're listening to this garbage?.

Captain Obvious

Good thing for you, there doesn't seem to be a limit on how many threads one poster can start in a day!

How would your protest go over with th family? Plus, how can you explain your knowledge of the content without admitting that you got it from this apostate site? Some things to consider.

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Evolution is Crap, there I said it!

by Crazyguy in

jw
friends

ok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.

the theory of major evolution is crap!

the theory is falling apart.

Captain Obvious

You mentioned light, colours, etc. physics. These don't belong in a thread about evolution. The Big Bang is another separate theory, as is abiogenesis. These must be considered on their own and each would take a thread of its own. Evolution doesn't explain how life started, just how it got to where it is now since then. Some like to place god in there right at the beginning... Problem is, are you really willing to reduce god's hand in things to just creating the first cell? Doubt it.

All of these theories have one thing in common.. They all happen without the need for an outside influence. The Big Bang and the formation of the universe is driven by gravity, a theory which I'm quite certain you aren't willing to try to disprove. The Big Bang was discovered by a catholic priest, Georges Lemaître . He discovered that the universe was expanding, something Einstein himself found impossible to believe at the time. A look at the timeline of an expanding universe in reverse leads to only one conclusion. One single event. Bang. Lemaître saw no issue with this discovery and his faith. He was later promoted to Cardinal in the RCC.

Abiogenesis, well.. I not knowledgeable enough to talk about that. Just because its been difficult to replicate in a lab over a short period of time doesn't render it disproven. Even if it were, it would still have no effect on Darwin's theory. These things are what you need to understand first. Go ahead and read The Magic of Reality. It's written at a school-age reading level, and explains clearly how we know what we know, how to follow facts to truth, etc. Then goes into the basics of evolution. From there feel free to grab another book on evolution if you still feel like it.

As far as me reading Darwin's Doubt is concerned, I am curious to see if it brings out any new arguments that haven't already been disproven. Unfortunately my "to read" list is HUGE at the moment. I have ten unfinished books in my Audible library, and rarely take the time to sit and read a whole paper book. I usually crush audiobooks, just been falling behind.

I'll make you a deal, CrazyGuy. Only because I like you, and want you to educate yourself as many of us have. You are intelligent, for sure.

If you read The Magic of Reality and The Blind Watchmaker then come on this forum and post a review, I will do the same with Darwin's Doubt. It'll slide to the top of my "to read" list. The Blind Watchmaker has become a tad outdated in some parts, but the newer versions address this.

So what do you say, do we have a deal?